5-cm ventilated air gap

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Haalsaad
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5-cm ventilated air gap

Beitrag von Haalsaad » Mo 25. Mai 2020, 11:14

Dear Delphin-Team,

I am simulating a highly-ventilated facade (wall + ventilated air gap + cladding). I defined the air change rate at the ventilated air gap using the source [AirChange]. I need to create a new material for the 5-cm ventilated air gap since the default air materials in Delphin are for unventilated gaps. I have Delphin 6 as well as Delphin 5, so creating a new material should not be a problem.

1. What is the thermal conductivity (lambda) of air in a 5-cm ventilated air gap? I cannot seem to find a value in the literature because all researchers refer to the standard DIN 4108 which recommends not considering the layers that are in front of the ventilated air gap when evaluating thermal performance of a structure. Instead, the standard recommends using the heat transfer resistance of Rse = 0.13 m2K/W for the exterior side (instead of the typical Rse = 0.04 m2K/W for horizontal heat transfer).

2. Similar to the first question, what is the µ-value (vapor transmission rate) of a 5-cm ventilated air gap?

Thank you very much in advance!

fechner
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Re: 5-cm ventilated air gap

Beitrag von fechner » Do 28. Mai 2020, 07:00

Hello,

For a ventilated air gap its difficult to say. For non-ventilated air gaps you can use EN 673. Here you can find formulas for calculating the Nusselt number and from this thermal conductivity, transfer coefficient and vapor transport value. I have an Excel sheet that can help you.
https://cloudstore.zih.tu-dresden.de/in ... JAcCd46taB
With ventilation its more difficult. You can find some hints in ISO 6946 but mainly for transfer coefficients. Otherwise, as higher the ventilation rate is as less important are the heat and vapor transfer through the gap is. Only the heat and vapor transfer coefficients at the boundaries from material into the air gap are important. You can set this by using a contact condition.

Haalsaad
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Re: 5-cm ventilated air gap

Beitrag von Haalsaad » Do 28. Mai 2020, 12:07

Thank you very much!

Haalsaad
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Re: 5-cm ventilated air gap

Beitrag von Haalsaad » Di 23. Jun 2020, 13:51

Dear Mr. Fechner,

To follow-up on this topic, I am wondering if I should use the airflow model (air mass balance equation) embedded in Delphin to simulate the ventilated air gap. In order to do this (please correct me if I am wrong):

1. The construction must have a 2D gird (discretization in both X and Y directions)
2. A [GasPressure] climate should be generated and defined into an [AirConvection] boundary conditions. This boundary condition should be then assigned into a Surface/Boundary.
3. The created Surface/Boundary should be assigned to the top and bottom of air cavity (or should it be assigned only to the bottom?)

As these steps made the model both slow and unstable, I was wondering if you have any suggestions/thoughts on the airflow model? do I need it to simulated my air cavity? if yes, then is there a "best practice" tips that you can give me in this regard?

Thank you very much in advance!

fechner
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Re: 5-cm ventilated air gap

Beitrag von fechner » Mo 29. Jun 2020, 12:04

Hello,

1. Yes
2. You need at least one air pressure boundary condition (in case of bouyancy). For forced convection you need a pressure difference. That means at least two pressure boundary condition. Keep in mind we use a normal pressure of 101325Pa. All pressure differences must respect this. As example:
For 5Pa pressure difference you can use one pressure 101325pa and on with 101330Pa
3. This depends on your construction
In order to give better help i need to see your project file. We can do the further help by EMail if you like.

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